Ripley,Sulaco & Co. encounter/go into orbit around a black hole,somehow creating a paradox in space-time:2 Ripleys,2 Sul

Hello BigDave again...

I found some more information regarding black holes in closer proximity to the Zeta Reticuli and Earth systems.

According to this there may be one within the centre of Orion's Belt in the Trapezium Cluster. Here are two quotes, one about the possible discovery, the other below that what they thought it was until now.

[Trapezium (info)

A black hole in the Orion Nebula?

An international team of astrophysicists says the famous Orion Nebula has a black hole at its heart, whose mass is some 200 times the mass of our sun. One of the most recognized constellations is Orion, with its three prominent Belt stars, or three stars in a short straight row on the sky’s dome. This constellation can be seen at night at this time of year, ascending in the east, visible from all parts of the globe. Last week (November 1, 2012), an international team of astrophysicists announced the result of their work in computer modeling, which suggests that a famous nebula – or cloud – in Orion known as the Orion Nebula has a black hole at its heart, whose mass is some 200 times the mass of our sun. If it exists, the black hole would reside somewhere between the four bright stars which mark the center of the Orion Nebula. These stars are known as the Trapezium.

The Trapezium stars are the four brightest stars in an open star cluster – known as the Orion Nebula Cluster – consisting of young stars, newly born (only one or two million years ago) from the Orion’s Nebula’s gas and dust. The Orion Nebula Cluster has long been known as peculiar. Its stars move at a rapid speed, as if the whole cluster were flying apart. If the cluster contained more high-mass stars, the speed of these stars would be easier to understand. But it doesn’t, and so astronomers have wondered why these stars move so rapidly. An international team of astrophysicists – led by Dr. Ladislav Subr of Charles University in Prague – set up a computer model of the Orion Nebula Cluster. The model required a new method of dealing with the gas in this region of space and the way it is driven out from the young star cluster by the intensely radiating high-mass stars of the Trapezium. The model showed that, as the gas was being driven outwards, the cluster began to expand. That explained why most stars in the Orion Nebula Cluster move so rapidly. Many of the heavy stars were sling-shot out of the cluster, while some were driven into the center of the cluster and collided with the most massive star there.

At some point, this massive star became unstable and imploded into a black hole, with a mass about 200 times larger than the sun. These scientists were excited about this result. They said the finding had: … dramatic implications for our understanding of how massive stars form and how such rich star clusters hatch from their gaseous cocoons. Having such a massive black hole at our doorstep would be a dramatic chance for intense studies of these enigmatic objects. Amateur astronomers will be excited, too! Now, as you gaze at the Orion Nebula, you can imagine a black hole at its heart. Bottom line: The Orion Nebula might have a black hole, according to an international team of astrophysicists. They made their announcement November 1, 2012 in the Astrophysical Journal. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Quadruple Star Theta Orionis - aka "The Trapezium"

A part of the Great Orion Nebula Theta Orionis is the noted quadruple, or multiple star, in the heart of the the Great Orion Nebula (M-42). This very young group provides the "power source" which lights up the nebula. It is known as "The Trapezium". Quote from Burnham's Celestial Handbook: "This is probably the best known multiple star in the sky, and one of the most interesting for the small telescope. The four brighter components form a little quadrangle called the "Trapezium" and the object is a favorite of all observers." "The ....... primary of the group (has) a visual magnitude of about 5.4; the spectral type is near 06. ......The spectra of (the second & third brightest stars) are BO and A7 respectively. The faintest star..... is an eclipsing binary with a period of 6.471 days, and is also known under its variable star designation which is "BM Orionis".

(The primary star) was in 1975 identified as an eclipsing binary with a period of 65.432 days and a visual range of 6.7 to 7.7." "The Trapezium is the bright core of a compact cluster of faint stars which may form an expanding association. Within 5' of the Trapezium are more than 300 stars brighter than 17th magnitude. A study of this group has been made by K.A.Strand; he finds some evidence for an expansion rate which would indicate an age of no more than 300,000 years, and make this one of the very youngest star clusters known."]

That all makes for interesting reading for me!

Also, do you have any information that shows any skymaps with Zeta Reticuli and the Orion System in proximity with each other? And do you know what distance it is from Zeta Reticuli to the Orion system? I've tried to find declination pictures and source other images but as yet have been unable to find anything as yet.

One other point, you may already know but in the Shaw/Holloway presentation in the begining of Prometheus Holloway shows the repeat constellation etchings from across the ages on Earth, it then morphs into the Zeta Reticuli hologram constellation and as they zoom back towards the vacinity of the Earth to hammer-home the point of the vast ditances between they're both talking about the zoom-out shows the constellation of Orion as they pass-by!

So for my proposal they could fall into the gravity well of the Trapezium Cluster within Orions Belt!

There is again a error in that map hologram, it shows that LV 223 is located past Orions Belt....  thus it can not be witin Zeta 2 Reticuli...

The Centre of Orions Belt has to be some 1300 LY futher than Zeta 2 Reticuli.

Maybe there is someone with more Astronomical knowledge than i have that can be more precise?

Zeta 2 would be located more south of Orion and more to the left... it would be thus -1 Right Ascension as viewed from earth to Orion and a Declination difference of 65 which kind of goes against what Holloways Hollogram map shows us.

I see, so BigDave do you think it is possible that the constellation of Orion in relation to the zoom-out from the Zeta Reticuli system is it a type of forced perspective giving the illusion of Zeta being further away an Orion being in front when in actual fact Orion is the one that is behind, bigger and much further away and Zeta is closer-in...? Or perhaps the two, although Orion looks bigger, are just in fact relatively side-by-side in space along a similar track...?