Fifield's victim comes back to life.

I think this is why the two scenes was deleted, if you see the Janek Fills Vickers in and alternative Fifield Attack they seem to lead hand in hand next to each other side of the King has its rein. If you remember the Trailer it had Weyland in the Cargo Bay as the CGI Fifield Attacked. If we then take and add the Janek Fills Vickers and full King has its reign then after that alternative Fifield with the Weyland in shot, if these was added to the movie then the in continuity you mentioned would not occur. This just shows how the movie was edited and cut and how the edited Theatrical Release thus ended up with problems such as what you described. [b]DONT FORGET......[/b] We have still not seen all the deleted scenes, the scenes we have seen are again edited also... The Full Sacrificial Scene thats still not seen has Engineer Dialog, the Full Final Battle Scene has the Engineer reading a book he finds in Vickers Quarters . Both these parts never made it into the deleted scenes.

I could be wrong, but I remember hearing Weyland was supposed to walk in on the Fifield attack. In the process of trying to crush mutant Fifield they ran Weyland over by accident. But this was changed.

If the scene you mention was used it would have altered quite a bit of the storyline. With Vickers on the moon and Weyland dead,what would happen to Weyland Cort? I mention this because many companies never send top executive/owners on the same flight or even on the same trip because of continuity of leadership. If what you mentioned occurs I am sure Vickers would immedietly booked for Earth...and miss out on the key scenes of our movie.

OK, then?

I had not noticed this. Perhaps they were robots a different model than David and were several of each on board Prometheus, I suspect it was just a oversite,,that even RS missed.

LOL yeah there are some immortals there...and a pair of twins too...but only one of them died in the Fifield attack I think...

[u]BigDave[/u]: We also haven't seen the following scenes: 1) The scene in which Vickers (and company?) see either Shaw's self-induced c-section or the aftermath of that scene in which Cuddles begins to further evolve/grow. 2) The scene(s) in which in after the crash of the Juggernaut the Engineer leaves his chair, talks to David and then walks across open terrain to the Life Boat. The "Furious" documentary also suggests that after being born the Deacon followed Shaw and David as they journeyed to another one of the Engineer's bases. Additionally, there's a pre-production concept drawing that shows the Deacon climbing up a hill towards a Juggernaut. I for one would KILL to both see the original 150 minute cut of "Prometheus" and the script used during the filming of the movie. Even with all of the alternate/deleted scenes that are found on the 4-disc Blu Ray set it's clear that there's a VERY large chunk of footage that has not made seen the light of day. Are we going to have to wait 20 years before the definitive edit of "Prometheus" is released to the public? Argh! P.S. And how exactly did the Engineer get his face burned during the "Final Battle" scene? Ugh! P.P.S. I just printed out a copy of Lindelof's supposed "Proentheus" script and will have to be satisfied with reading that for now being that I dont' have access to the shooting script or the 150 minute original cut of the film.

The look on tht guys face when he sees fifield mash the other guys face in is great acting... he looks like hes genuinely shit his pants. How would we ever see the deleted, deleted scenes?

The film's good stuff has grown on me a lot with repeated viewings but this thread brings home the butchery performed on the second half of it and its resulting incoherence/pointlessness.

This a good observation and I think at some point the story was shifted and this scene moved around. The crew numbers are very interesting to think of here: Crew = 17 is stated early in the movie. Accounting for them thus: 1. Janek 2. Ravel 3. Chance 4. Shaw 5. Holloway 6. Vickers 7. David (does he count?) 8. Ford 9. Fifield 10.Millburn I don't count Weyland because he is "secret"! Thats leaves 7 security, ship hands. The 2 silver suited "deck hands" are dispatched by Fifield. I counted then three security guys killed (one flametheower, one guy thrown at the vehicle and the guy with the spike in this lower back). Also, we see two people in the front of the vehicle, the driving positions. That leaves the three guys left. That being said, there do appear to be some people that look very alike in the folllowing scenes that were previously killed or badly injured!!!!!

There are 14 ship-side actors that are credited on IMDB, including four mechanics. The missing ones don't really worry me, because where do you draw the limit? Now, on the other hand, if it had stated a crew of 10, there would be a very real problem. The first few times I watched the movie, I didn't really notice who the guys were who were getting beaten up in the hangar. They're just fodder material with no characterisation or dialog. And when you see the close-up of Jackson doing his little speech, he actually looks quite different in some other shots. I'm sure you've all been to a pub quiz where you can't recognise a celebrity's photo in a list of snaps. If you like, content yourself that the nameless mercenaries that are not credited in the movie, look quite a bit like some other mercenaries. Heck, Jackson might have had a brother onboard, for all you know.

[u]Reimer[/u]: You wrote: "...this thread brings home the butchery performed on the second half of it and its resulting incoherence/pointlessness." Well said. Given the the high quality of most of the deleted/alternate scenes and the potential for the scenes that we know or suspect were filmed but not included on the Blu Ray set I get so pissed off about the obvious holes and incoherence in the second half of "Prometheus". I so badly want to know why the film went from 150 minutes to the version that made it to the theaters.

Synthi69 - I'd also be jolly interested to know what seemingly knocked such a potentially high-quality product so badly off course. Arbitrarily shunting around big big action scenes that result in numerous members of a small cast being killed off with seemingly no regard for continuity or creating greater tension.... Given how good the good stuff in the film's first half is, I find it staggering that sophisticated, experienced professionals with plenty of resources could repeatedly drop the ball so glaringly in the second half. IIRC the film got a delay of three months in its release schedule - maybe it wasn't enough by a good way. R

For me the 2nd half was enjoyable because of the pacing of the first half. A traditional Sci-Fi might have had what you desired in a movie. In fact I was was expecting more of an action orientated film. What I watched was more of drama that usual explosions..more curious charactors than shallow cardboard cutouts. And afterwards there was somthing to think about, discuss and cuss..than saying "let's get something to eat".

[u]Reimer[/u]: In regards to your comment about how the film went off couse, what drives me nuts is that we now know that the script was in fact solid and that a lot of work was done to realize [i]every[/i] stage of that script. Last night I was thinking about the differences between the 2 versions of the scene where the crew meets the Engineer. The alternate version is light years better than the one that made it into theaters. Additionally, I would kill to see the footgae that depicts the Engineer talking to David post-crash of the Juggernaut. I really can't comprehend what went so f*cking wrong in the editing process. They had a masterpiece in their hands and they f*cked the pooch by hacking the second half of the film to death. [u]Indy John[/u]: I agree with you about how the pace of the first half of the film is a joy to watch. I think that the portion of the film in which David is the only crew member who is awake is one of the best executed film passages I have ever seen. I absolutely love the scene where he opens the "windscreen" of the ship. In my mind I can hear the soundtrack from that scene. I feel that that type of pacing was echoed in the scene in which David finds the flight deck of the Juggernaut and I imagine that that mood was continued in the yet unseen footage in which the Engineer speaks to David after the Juggernaut has crashed. Scott did in fact make a film that gave viewers a lot to think and talk about during and after the film but unfortunately the editing choices he made regarding the second half of the film overshadowed the GREATNESS that the film often achieves.

@ZZ [i]"And when you see the close-up of Jackson doing his little speech, he actually looks quite different in some other shots."[/i] Yeah, that's not Jackson. He's a ring-in.