Pyramid in Prometheus?

looks like somebody already had this idea.................... http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2011/06/could-prometheus-re-use-ideas-from-an-early-alien-script/

I like the idea very much and loved the book when I read it...but do not think they will go there after reading Spaihts script which never mentioned any of that at all. I think everything in this one will be original. and Just FYI...I am not changing any subject here.... I also read what Scott said in the interview you mentioned and you are RIGHT he definitely says it "NO XENOS" but what he meant I believe was "XENOS" like we saw in "Alien". He won't go back to the original "design", but the "concept" I believe is in tact and we will see a different version maybe even several of that type of creature.

i guess that's true but still, i have always wanted to see a live action version of gigers pyramid http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/199/e/e/Giger_Concept_Art_for_Alien_by_TheOldOne81.jpg awesome :)

Fantastic Pic man and Check this out There is a little link button at the top of the posting box when you write your post right beside the one for PICS and it has a Mouse over that indicates "Link" but it does something cool you will like... You can write a comment...Check It Out Man...This is what I made for your pic below... [url=http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/199/e/e/Giger_Concept_Art_for_Alien_by_TheOldOne81.jpg]Invaderzim42sPyramid[/url]

I would love to see a Pyramid. H.R. Giger is an amazing artist, and I always loved the Egyptian feel to the space jockey.

[url=http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/199/e/e/Giger_Concept_Art_for_Alien_by_TheOldOne81.jpg]TheOldOne[/url] Damn, LOL, it's the same pic. But you get the idea I am sure now!

thanks :) but no need for sarcasm.....that might not have been sarcasm but i can never tell by reading text.

No I was mad at myself for not checking if it was a different pic first.

dude, I'm not that way!

sorry, like i said i can never tell with text :(

snicker ;)

One thing better than sarcasm.. is delayed sarcasm

exactly lol

Can anyone tell me why everyone keeps calling the dome we spent two hours looking at a pyramid? Dome circular; pyramid triangular. I'm not trolling, I'm just wondering. Maybe it's some form of mass hypnosis? It was just about the first question I asked - "Why are they calling the fucking dome a pyramid?" (Actually it's only called a pyramid twice in the movie - by Janek and Shaw - and a dome once by Janek so the pyramid thing must be coming from all the pre-release hoop-la.) But if you can answer that question, you're on the way to busting this movie wide open. To paraphrase David - "Big ideas come from small questions."

A couple of reasons: Firstly, early concept art depicted them to be more triangular, like regular pyramids. Secondly, the labyrinthine tunnels / tombs bear more than a passing resemblance to ancient Earthly pyramids.

I don't think the average movie goer is conversant with early art depictions of a dome (do you have any pics, etc) even if you are right. We understand a dome to be a semi-circular shape and pyramids to be triangular - it's really that simple (or it was before [i]Prometheus[/i]). Sorry to push Wiki on to you but: [i]A pyramid is a structure whose shape is roughly that of a pyramid in the geometric sense; that is, [b]its outer surfaces are triangular and converge to a single point at the top[/b].[/i] [i][/i] [i]A dome is an element of architecture that resembles [b]the hollow upper half of a sphere[/b]. Dome structures made of various materials have a long architectural lineage extending into prehistory.[/i] If you would prefer a visual definition: [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=domes&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=6f0&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=uSLOUPGJBcXtrAfs5oDoDw&ved=0CGUQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=791]Domes[/url] [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=pyramids+pics&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=52f&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=RyPOUMz_EYrSrQfZ7YD4Aw&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=791]Pyramids[/url] I don't think what is inside a dome or pyramid has anything to do with its external shape. What's even more interesting is how quickly people rush in to defend the indefensible. I mentioned this on another site and was pretty well run off as a troll. The mind fucking boggles. The simple answer to this conundrum is that we the audience see a dome (despite your protests) while the characters in the movie see a pyramid (or, more than likely, a pyramid-shaped hologram).

Whether the average movie-goer is cognisant of the movie's development process or not, that's what it had – a process. This process is documented rather well in "The Furious Gods". The pyramids had various shapes during development, and there are certainly structures shown that were more like traditional ones with triangular sides. I'll leave that as an exercise for you to research, as the documentary is several hours long. It's on the web, until Fox find it and pull it down. When you find the images in question, re-vsit your comments above and you'll see that some of them are really quite silly.

Are you saying the structure is a non-traditional pyramid? Jesus wept. It doesn't matter what processes they went through, only the end product matters - what we see on the screen. And it's a fucking dome. If you follow the scientists first trip to the dome, you'll see three of them look through the windscreen of the spacebus. Unfortunately, from the POV shot we're given, we can't see what they're looking at because of the sun on the windscreen. But there is what appears to be a terrain tracker or something that shows the layout of the land on the dashboard. It will show you what Shaw & co are probably seeing. On the left side of the tracker you will see a shape that is consistent with that of a pyramid (we can't see the whole structure) and it appears to be transparent. This fits in with one of the earlier scripts which described a pyramid hologram. And Janek, after calling the structure a pyramid earlier in the film, later refers to it as a dome. Has something changed? I can't believe I'm having this discussion. Do you think dome and pyramid are interchangeable names for the same type of structure?

I needed to check on round pyramids and sure enough there are several in in the Aztec world. My reaction was more in line of calling the structures Domes or beehives. The writers or RS himself must have approved the word usage, To my mind the pyramis has a mjoire religious overtone to it and sort of dits the theme of our movie. It may not be the most significant item in our movie, but it is just an aspect of interest that a couple of movie fans might have discussed over a cup of coffee.

@Javablue Please stop swearing and ranting. YOU asked the question why the characters in the movie call the structures pyramids, and the given answer tells you why. They are [i]alien[/i] artefacts. They are [b]not[/b] domes and they are [b]not[/b] pyramids. They have to call them something. "Crested dome-like walled rock formation" hardly trips off the tongue, does it? And if you're looking for Dalek-like logic in every line of dialog, you're watching the wrong kind of film. Why, exactly, is this distinction so important to you? That's a more fascinating question, ultimately.

My question was not why some of the characters call the dome a pyramid, I was asking, "Can anyone tell me why everyone keeps calling the dome we spent two hours looking at a pyramid?" Everyone includes you. So let me put it to you directly: When [b]you[/b] look at the structure presented to the audience, would you say it's more a dome-like structure or more a pyramid-like structure? I asked myself why some of the characters call the dome a pyramid and I believe I have a satisfactory answer. I named a scene in the movie I thought might help explain my reason. Have you looked at that? I have already stated why I think the discrepancy is important - because understanding why will help understand the film better. And I do expect a high degree of logical consistency in [i]Prometheus[/i] given that Ridley is presenting us with a puzzle. And as a side note, I do find it interesting why people spent two hours looking at a dome and yet keep calling it a pyramid.

I would have called it a dome If our charactors refer to it as a pyramid, well that is different but OK I'll go along with it,,especially after finding do much more in this hollow building. For me the quesation is not sematics but it function and to some extent it's construction method. I can't recall an explanation for the Head on top of the dome. On the close ups just outside the dome it looks like the outer surface was machined..then at other times more of built up , you guessed it like a pyramid. The thing is if they were were constructed then why were entrances machined out. Why build a solid structure and then hollow it out ? It would be hard to believe that that there were 4 or five mountains lined up in a natural manner ro be turned into what we call domes or pyramids. As far as the time spend on this question it could be as simple as the movie has been discussed to death and there are no other subjects to investigate. I do hope this is not true and look forward to andditional threads on topics relating to our movie. Fot those that criticize the shallow nature of some threads please post an intersting related subject and I am sure quality minded posters would be glad to add their comments. That would make a good read.

"[i]When [b]you[/b] look at the structure presented to the audience, would you say it's more a dome-like structure or more a pyramid-like structure?[/i]" Since you ask... The first time I look at it – with no idea of what it is – I might well be inclined to call it what Holloway calls it: "It". When describing it – with knowledge of its interior and the many echoes of the workings of an Egyptian pyramid – I might well be inclined to call it a Pyramid. Even though it's not one. When describing its exterior – disregarding certain elements of the structure – I might well be inclined to call it a Dome. Even though it's not one. In fact, I have used both Dome and Pyramid as descriptions in my postings. But if I hung around long enough on the planet, I'd come up with a different word. Temple, maybe. Weapons Dump, maybe. Or some entirely new word that described the structure uniquely.

@ ZZ Ok. I'll go along with your very grudging inclination to call the exterior design of the structure - which is what I'm talking about - a dome. We don't want to get bogged down in semantics, which is obviously a game you play very well. So let's forget about all that. Can I ask you another question, concerning Holloway, the so-called archeologist, and "it"? He's confused as to whether the structure is natural or made by some intelligent being. I would have thought it's very obvious that it's "man-made" or not natural. Especially as there are several very similar looking structures running off into the horizon. Do you share Holloway's confusion or were you too fairly certain it's man/jockey/alien-made? It's not a trick question. Just wondering.

I'm not grudging at all about describing the formation's exterior as a dome, even though it's not a actually a dome. We need words to describe the alien structure and – in the absence of something more suitable – this will do. We and the crew only caught a fleeting glimpse of the other formations as the Prometheus settled in the canyon. My initial suspicion would have been that it was almost certainly artificial (certainly not 'man-made') and most likely made by the Engineers, who apparently brought us there. However, it being a completely alien environment, I would not completely rule out some kind of natural phenomenon giving rise to bulbous lumps of rock surrounded by regular outcrops. It's not Earth. For the simple expedient of asking the geologist sitting in the back, it would be worth getting his opinion. In less enlightened times, generations of people believed the Giant's Causeway to be the work of an intelligent designer rather than the natural cooling of certain basalts, which is exactly the opposite of that found by the Prometheus. Wrong conclusions can be drawn, Up close, of course, it is immediately apparent that the central section of the formation is sitting atop sharply defined and angled 'stilts' (for lack of a better word). It is hard to imagine that they could have formed by any natural means. This was not the case, however, when Holloway asked the question. At that time, they could only see rock, in an arrangement that can be described by a small number of mathematical variables.

"..He's confused as to whether the structure is natural or made by some intelligent being,," For me it was not so much of Holloway's question not being right but Fifield immediate response that 'I can't tell you if it's natural or not.." I would have expected Fifield to know right away.. Also Holloway asks for spectrograph to be used. Is this an actual scientific term/procedure? And if it is valid would it be used to check our the dome?

A spectrograph will tell you something about the chemical or mineral make up of a target. Robot probes do this very often, e,g. as is happening right now on the Messenger mission to Mercury. Of course, if the results are consistent with those of rock, that in itself can't tell you if it's natural or not.

I don't know much about archaeology, but I do know a bit about spectroscopy. At one time I was part of a team developing industrial process control instrumentation for analysing substances remotely using the infrared portion of the spectrum. Something like a radio penetrator would likely be needed to work out remotely if something is hollow or not. Of course, it's the future, and Fifield has some amazing gadgets at his disposal. I have no idea what the RT01 instrumentation is showing. It's probably just made up stuff for simple visual effect. [img]http://i49.tinypic.com/20jn1h.jpg[/img]

@ZZ Are you an someone who actually knows something about these things, like an archeologist or something? It'd be just my bloody luck. (smiley) Yes, I thought the use of spectrograph to give a hollow reading was a bit dodgy. You'd need something related to sound, like sonar, for that. The terrain data scanner of the Prometheus does pick up the lines and the dome as "man-made" about the same time as Holloway notices the straight lines. But nobody says anything. Strange. On the other hand, the terrain scanner (if that's what it is) on the spacebus shows something different. Strange. Something's going on. Maybe Holloway's not an archeologist?

Ok Z. But ask yourself why Ridley would show the three scientists looking though the windshield at the dome and then in the POV shot he just gives us a dirty glarey windscreen? Why not gives us a closer look at the dome? Maybe he's hiding something. But he does give us a chance to see roughly what the crew are looking at via the terrain scanner. If you follow the scanner as it moves from (our) right to left, you will see on the far left a dome similar to the one we see but with a different top on it. There also appears to be a transparent structure in front of the dome. Ok it could be just a pretty visual, or a Ridley mistake, or sloppy scriptwriters, or one of the many excuses we make for this movie. Or maybe this movie is not as silly as it sometimes looks.